Coffee for AROS - joint thread
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 49 minutes agocoffeecatMember
Posted 7 hours ago
Edited by coffeecat on 21-09-2026 18:05, 7 hours ago
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retrofaza
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Posted 9 hours ago
Hello AROS.
So, who's coming to AROS to make the next Stardew Valley? (it's still far from being usable, but frontend and Skia works)
Edited by coffeecat on 21-09-2026 15:57, 9 hours ago
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Posted 1 day agoNot sure how well it will work and if at all, but a test with Pragtical (https://github.com/pragtical/pragtical) works:
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And I took on Skia which seems to work as well in the CPU mode on ABIv11 (Skia is the basis for e.g. Chromium/Chrome and several other apps)
https://github.com/google/skia
And I took on Skia which seems to work as well in the CPU mode on ABIv11 (Skia is the basis for e.g. Chromium/Chrome and several other apps)
https://github.com/google/skia
Edited by amigamia on 21-09-2026 06:53, 18 hours ago
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deadwood
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Posted 2 days ago
Feeling nostalgic yet?
coffeecatMember
Posted 4 days ago
Burntime Remastered for x86_64 (aarch64 and others later) is also close.
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cdimauroMemberUpdates? There are big updates next month: Python 3.15 will be released (with an enhance JIT). 
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Posted 5 days ago
And Python for mainline should be available for testing in the next couple of days. I will need to check updates if it will be possible to launch it on Aros One.
Edited by coffeecat on 16-09-2026 14:31, 5 days ago
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cdimauroMember@coffeecat -
Python 3.14 on AROS - a small progress report and a question
CPython 3.14.7 build for mainline AROS x86_64, cross-compiled from macOS. I'm still learning how AROS works, but a few useful things are running in the guest:
[list]
[*]The interpreter, REPL, and some standard-library functionality
[*]Sockets, DNS, and HTTPS through urllib, with certificate verification
[*]A small API client and a single-threaded HTTP server
[*]Offline installation of a pure-Python wheel with pip, tested with pyfiglet although cleanup still produces warnings
[/list]
Threaded sockets need more work, subprocess launching is currently disabled, and additional C extensions cannot be loaded dynamically. The interpreter includes the available C modules. Installing pure-Python wheels directly from PyPI is still untested.
Even so, it seems useful for file tools, processing JSON, and talking to web APIs.
Indeed. It's already a GREAT achievement. Kudos!
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What would you use Python for on AROS?
I've no time to dedicate for tinkering, but Python can be used from a "system language" (replacing the script used for the installer) up to controlling Blender.
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Any small scripts or packages worth testing?
BeautifulSoup for web scraping, for example.
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One question about dynamic loading
Looking through the sources, I noticed that LoadSeg already loads and relocates ELF ET_REL objects, while dlopen/dlsym appear unimplemented in posixc.
Could that be a starting point for loading AROS-built Python extensions? I assume resolving symbols from the interpreter is only part of the problem, with initialization, dependencies, and relocations to consider too.
I'm probably missing some history or technical details here. Has anyone explored this already? I mean extensions compiled for AROS, of course, not running Linux wheels.
Sorry, but I've no experience on that.
deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 11 days ago@coffeecat Then I need to adjust my targets and maybe support both from the start. Sorry that I'm asking- I need to catch up on the basics. I made too many assumptions up front.
That would be preferred. Possibly you could release "limited" version for AROS One users right now and full version for mainline.
@coffeecat
Ideally, I'd prefer to build against mainline and know that users will get those, e.g., 3-6 months from now. For the package manager I work on, I will consider building the package from source. (GentooAROS
Sounds interesting .
If this would be something like a publicly available build service, possibly more developers would be interested. 1 user reacted to this post
coffeecat
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Posted 11 days ago
Python 3.14 on AROS - a small progress report and a question
CPython 3.14.7 build for mainline AROS x86_64, cross-compiled from macOS. I'm still learning how AROS works, but a few useful things are running in the guest:
[list]
[*]The interpreter, REPL, and some standard-library functionality
[*]Sockets, DNS, and HTTPS through urllib, with certificate verification
[*]A small API client and a single-threaded HTTP server
[*]Offline installation of a pure-Python wheel with pip, tested with pyfiglet although cleanup still produces warnings
[/list]
Threaded sockets need more work, subprocess launching is currently disabled, and additional C extensions cannot be loaded dynamically. The interpreter includes the available C modules. Installing pure-Python wheels directly from PyPI is still untested.
Even so, it seems useful for file tools, processing JSON, and talking to web APIs. What would you use Python for on AROS? Any small scripts or packages worth testing?
One question about dynamic loading
Looking through the sources, I noticed that LoadSeg already loads and relocates ELF ET_REL objects, while dlopen/dlsym appear unimplemented in posixc.
Could that be a starting point for loading AROS-built Python extensions? I assume resolving symbols from the interpreter is only part of the problem, with initialization, dependencies, and relocations to consider too.
I'm probably missing some history or technical details here. Has anyone explored this already? I mean extensions compiled for AROS, of course, not running Linux wheels.
Edited by coffeecat on 11-09-2026 11:15, 11 days ago
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Posted 11 days agoOkay, so I think I'm starting to understand the ABI situation. I'd say it's messy but manageable. So now I just need to understand how often the distros are updated. Python and Go require changes that are not part of Aros One. If I build, e.g., Python against mainline (which is easy, and I see that Nick already accepted some of the PRs) and announce it works, but then users have to wait a year to get it... Then I need to adjust my targets and maybe support both from the start. Sorry that I'm asking- I need to catch up on the basics. I made too many assumptions up front.
Ideally, I'd prefer to build against mainline and know that users will get those, e.g., 3-6 months from now. For the package manager I work on, I will consider building the package from source. (GentooAROS
Ideally, I'd prefer to build against mainline and know that users will get those, e.g., 3-6 months from now. For the package manager I work on, I will consider building the package from source. (GentooAROS
Edited by coffeecat on 11-09-2026 05:37, 11 days ago
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Posted 11 days ago@serk118uk - 3. raylib + GLFW
I already ported glfw 2.6 plus latest version of GLFW + Raylib to i386
Here
https://serk118.b...5.html?m=1
I was planning to port both to x86_64 since mesa updated, not sure how soon.
You are welcome to take on but aros integration already done.
Yep, I even started writing you an email, but in the binary for raylib i386 you wrote - as far as I remember - that the sources take a lot of space. That's when I figured I might start from scratch.
Not urgent right now - got plenty of other things and AROS was not supposed to take more than 10% of my time
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